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The New Yorker Radio Hour

Gish Jen’s “The Resisters”

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

Politics, Arts, News, Wnyc, Books, David, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Yorker, New, Remnick

4.26.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2020

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

In the near future, the Internet is sentient and her name is Aunt Nettie. Gish Jen’s novel “The Resisters” imagines a dystopian world with two classes: the “netted” (people who work) and the “surplus” (people who merely consume). The book follows Gwen, a terrific baseball pitcher from a surplus family that’s politically active. When her pitching attracts the attention of Aunt Nettie, she must choose between realizing her talents or staying with her family and being a resister. Baseball, for Jen, epitomizes the magic of chance and natural talent. “I wanted to write about our times,” she tells Katy Waldman. “But, to write in a realistic mode about our times and everything that’s happening, we would have nothing but shock and anger.”    “The Resisters” was published on February 4th.

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0:00.0

From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

0:11.0

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick.

0:14.6

Gish Jen first came to readers' attention almost 30 years ago.

0:19.0

Her debut novel was about an immigrant family from China, and it had

0:23.0

the somewhat ironic title, Typical American. Gish Jens' eighth book has just come out, and she talked

0:29.2

about it with the New Yorker's Katie Waldman. The Resisters is a new book that's just come out,

0:35.2

and it's a dystopia. It's a dystopic fiction.

0:38.0

It is set in a future where there is one class, The Netted, who are allied with the Internet.

0:45.6

The Internet, of course, has taken over everything and has permeated every aspect of life.

0:50.9

And then there is the surplus class, and their job is basically to consume all of the

0:56.4

goods that this privilege cast produces. So the novel follows a surplus family. The daughter is Gwen.

1:05.9

She's sort of this wonderkind baseball pitcher, and so she gets scouted to play for the Olympic team. So the

1:13.8

Resisters is definitely a book about politics, but it also happens to be a wonderful baseball novel.

1:19.7

And it gets at the sort of aesthetic quality of the game, how unpredictable and often beautiful and sometimes boring it can be.

1:32.0

So when Gishdren and I talked recently, we started with baseball.

1:36.9

So you live in Cambridge, right?

1:38.9

So you must be a Red Sox fan.

1:40.9

I am a Red Sox fan, but I have to say that, you know, I come from a very, very, very strongly, you know, pro-Yankies family.

1:48.3

Really?

1:49.2

Okay.

1:50.3

Well, you know, it's interesting because, you know, what most people have asked me is, you know, are you a baseball fan?

1:56.6

And, you know, I will say that baseball was so important to my family that a couple summers

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