From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story on Sunday. I'm Manvine Rano.

When Giselle Pellicoe walked into a courtroom in the south of France, she did something

extraordinarily rare among victims of sexual violence. She waved her anonymity

and insisted that the trial be held in public. The case in which dozens of men were accused of

raping her while she was unconscious after being drugged by her own husband, shocked France and made headlines

around the world.

It was that decision to be seen and named, and her insistence that the shame of these crimes

belonged to the perpetrators and not the victim that transformed

Giselle Pelico into a symbol of dignity, courage and defiance. Today, we bring you an interview

with her by Times Radio's Jane Garvey, featured on our sister podcast, Offair with Jane and Fee.

We have always got a very diverse range of interviews for you on this podcast, and today's is just extraordinary, Jane.

Well, I don't think there can be many more

famous women in the world right now than Giselle Pelico who has written this incredible memoir

which we have discussed quite a bit on the podcast and on the radio show as well because I

interviewed the two interpreters who translated him to life into English,

and we've also spoken to her lawyer.

So this was a fantastic opportunity to talk to Giselle, who is in London just for today, actually.

So she's doing a whole round of different interviews.

And we talked to her, I talked to her through an interpreter. And I know this is

going to say, I hope it doesn't sound fatuous, but I think if anyone is concerned about her,

worries that perhaps she is being asked to do too much, that this woman has been through hell

and is now being made to go through more hell.

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