GIRL, 5, WALKS ALONE TO SCHOOL, MURDERED
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace
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🗓️ 1 August 2022
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Five-year-old Ann Pham is the youngest of 10 children, but her family felt her so responsible that the parents allowed the girl to walk the few blocks to her kindergarten class alone.
Pham never made it. She had been suffocated, sexually assaulted, and her body discarded. according to police.
Now, thanks to new DNA technology, Robert John Lanoue, 70, a former Fort Ord soldier, is charged with one count of first-degree murder, with special circumstances.
Joining Nancy Grace Today:
- Dr. Ed Green - Founder: Astrea Forensics, Professor of Biomolecular Engineering, University of California, Santa Cruz, AstreaForensics.com
- Darryl Cohen - Former Assistant District Attorney, Fulton County, Georgia, Defense Attorney, Cohen, Cooper, Estep, & Allen, LLC, CCEAlaw.com
- Caryn Stark - NYC Psychologist, CarynStark.com, Twitter: @carynpsych, Facebook: "Caryn Stark"
- Sheryl McCollum - Forensic Expert, Founder: Cold Case Investigative Research Institute in Atlanta, GA, ColdCaseCrimes.org, @ColdCaseTips
- Dr. Michelle DuPre - Former Forensic Pathologist, Medical Examiner and Detective: Lexington County Sheriff's Department, Author: "Homicide Investigation Field Guide" & "Investigating Child Abuse Field Guide", Forensic Consultant, DMichelleDupreMD.com
- Scott Rates - News Director/Anchor KION 46, Facebook.com/RealScottRates, Twitter: @RealScottRates,, Instagram: @real.news.rates
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| 0:00.0 | The Crime Stories with Nancy Grace |
| 0:07.0 | A five-year-old little girl on her way to school walking alone. |
| 0:22.0 | But school was only a few blocks away. |
| 0:29.0 | Right? A lot. |
| 0:33.0 | I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. |
| 0:35.0 | Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation and Series XM111. |
| 0:40.0 | What happened to Ann? |
| 0:43.0 | First of all, take a listen to this. |
| 0:45.0 | Two days after she went missing. |
| 0:48.0 | Two days and just two miles from her family's home. |
| 0:50.0 | Fam's little body was found. |
| 0:52.0 | As fate would have it, Sergeant Matthew Doza, who is helping lead this case, |
| 0:56.0 | is the son of one of the Army CID investigators who stumbled on the child's body off of what is now Southboundary Road. |
| 1:04.0 | A couple of years ago, we opened this case and we examined every single report. |
| 1:08.0 | We examined every item of evidence and have since partnered with the District Attorney's Office cold case unit. |
| 1:15.0 | And they are running with this case and following up on every lead, every piece of information, every bit of evidence. |
| 1:22.0 | Fam's case is one where looking at all the DNA can bring closure and justice to victims' families. |
| 1:28.0 | We were just hearing our friends say, K-I-O in 46. |
| 1:32.0 | How can there be a five-year-old little girl that goes missing? |
| 1:36.0 | Her body found, murdered, as sex assaulted. |
| 1:39.0 | And yet, no arrest. |
| 1:43.0 | Again, thank you for being with us here at Crime Stories on Fox Nation in Series XM111. |
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