Dear 2020, can we just start over?

I'm Dornow Porter and I've been thinking about life in lockdown, mostly from a cupboard.

My new book, Life in Pieces, is full of thoughts on everything from bad hair and parenting

to things we can control and the things we can't.

When everything's falling apart, we'll piece it back together.

Life in Pieces is out now in hardback, e-book and audiobook.

Hi, I'm Dawn O'Porter, and welcome to So Lucky, where each week I go deep with my guest and explore all of the sides

to all of their stories. Their highs and lows, their hopes and fears, they're lucky and

their unlucky moments. My guest this week is Giovanna Fletcher, Sunday Times bestselling author

and host of the Happy Mum, Happy Baby podcast. As you'll hear, Giovanna was my first interview on the podcast. She was

my guinea pig and it was such a lovely conversation. We talked about feeling that you're

pushing your luck when things are going really well, how she never wants any parent to feel like

they're alone or struggling, how family time is not me time. And it's lovely. We agree on that, but it's not me time.

The judgment that surrounds motherhood

and I contribute a pretty epic poo story.

You are very welcome.

I hope you enjoy this chat as much as I did having it

and I'll see you at the end of the episode.

So for now, this is me, Dornow Porter,

talking to the glorious

Giovanna Fletcher. I did a really interesting program with Darren Brown once about the concept of luck.

And we went up to this little town in Yorkshire. And there was a statue of a dog in the local park

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