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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Giorgia Meloni's Hard Right Playbook

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

News, Politics, Government

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2022

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Last Sunday, Italians voted for the most right-wing government since Benito Mussolini. The controversial politician leading the winning coalition, Giorgia Meloni, will become Italy's first female prime minister. Meloni has become a darling of sorts for many Republicans in America, who invited her to speak at this year's CPAC conference. The "Brothers of Italy," co-founded by Meloni in 2012, was a fringe party with neo-fascist roots. It rebranded itself in recent years as a socially conservative, ultra-nationalist party that's also a European voice in the growing trans-national culture wars. From a rooftop bar near central Rome, Ryan Lizza and POLITICO Europe's Rome correspondent, Hannah Roberts, dig into Meloni's history, rise, and how she's likely to lead Italy's government with EU, NATO, and Russian relationships center stage. Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Hannah Roberts is POLITICO Europe's Rome correspondent.Afra Abdullah is associate producer for POLITICO audio.Kara Tabor is producer for POLITICO audio.Brook Hayes is senior editor for POLITICO audio.Adam Allington is senior producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is executive producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

On this podcast, we tend to focus on the people and institutions controlling the levers of power in American politics and government.

0:08.5

But every so often, an outside event breaks through in ways that add a new dimension to our own domestic political debates.

0:21.0

Last Sunday, Italians went to the polls and voted in the most right-wing government since Benito Mussolini.

0:28.5

The person they chose to lead that coalition, Giorgio Maloney, which will also be Italy's first female prime minister.

0:42.5

Viewed by some as a potential template for US conservatives to follow, Maloney has become a darling of sorts for many Republicans, who even invited her to speak at this year's CPAC conference.

0:59.0

Maloney's party, the Brothers of Italy, founded in 2012, was a fringe party with neo-fascist roots.

1:10.0

It rebranded itself in recent years as a socially conservative, ultra-nationalist party, but still only 1% in 2018.

1:19.0

Maloney then became the singular face of opposition to the government in power and her star rose.

1:27.0

Gioran on a platform that opposes LGBTQ rights, especially same-sex marriage, immigration and abortion rights.

1:35.0

And that's exactly what they want.

1:38.0

A right-wing on a leash, irrelevant and trained as a monkey.

1:47.0

But you know what? We're not monkeys! We're not even rhinos!

1:54.0

We won't be part of their zoo!

1:57.0

I'm Ryan Liza. This is Playbook Deep Dive.

2:03.0

As it happens, I was actually in Italy this week.

2:06.0

I was on vacation, visiting family, and I even got engaged while I was there.

2:12.0

Two of my family members happened to be deeply involved in Italian politics.

2:16.0

One is the mayor of a city in the south, and the other is a member of parliament.

2:20.0

Or at least she was until last Sunday when the Maloney wave swept her away.

2:25.0

Despite Maloney's firebrand reputation, by the end of the campaign,

2:29.0

she was sounding all of the right notes that the European and American establishment wanted to hear when it comes to Italy's place in the EU

2:38.0

and its opposition to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

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