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Welcome to the Treatment.

I'm Elvis Mitchell.

My guest, writer-director, Gina Prince Bythe, has had a very interesting century so far.

Starting off with one of the most beloved movies ever to come on, Sundance, Love and Basketball.

That same year she had on HBO disappearing adaptation of Terry McMillan's much-loved.

An interesting novel about power dynamics and relationships.

It's one of the things I think that she has to be really good at as a filmmaker,

power dynamics and relationships and the way that men deal with women who have more power than they.

A good example.

That would be her newest film, Beyond the Lights.

First of all, you know, thanks so much for doing this.

Thank you for having me.

And I want to ask you about that. I mean, that idea of women coming into their power and men, particularly men of color,

dealing, trying to get past archetypal, the most political way I can put it, the most politic way I can put it,

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