This is The Guardian.

I just think that that organisation and that family are particularly good at spinning their story.

As someone who's been on the other side of the story trying to unspin it from time to time,

I can tell you, it's pretty difficult.

They play hardball and it isn't pleasant.

It's all right to say you've got to be tough and stand up to it.

From Guardian Australia, I'm Sarah Martin, and this is Gina, a podcast series about Australia's

richest person. The stories her family chooses to celebrate.

There was this mythical narrative set up by Lang Hancock right from the start.

I think it was very, very effective, at least until the pesky journalist comes along and blows it apart.

And the ones they don't.

When they talked about closing the mine

and closing this road,

it was going into, you know, into those gorgeous.

Yeah.

Closed it because of the dust.

We used to travel around here, and ourselves here a lot. Do you think about it often? Do you worry about it?

I think we leave the past behind, but we, you know, always conscious of our traditional homeland and what's going to happen to it.

None of our people left here.

This is episode six, mythmaking.

So in this episode we'll be interrogating the myth-making surrounding Gina, the Hancock's and their stories.

And I want to start by returning to the story that they say started it all.

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