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Welcome to Recode Media with Peter Kafka.

That is me.

Happy, Almost Thanksgiving.

Maybe it's Thanksgiving when you're listening to this.

Maybe you've already had a good Thanksgiving. No matter what. Enjoy your Thanksgiving. We are not traveling

this year. We are staying at home. There's a bummer. We don't get to see family. On the upside,

we're reviving an old Kafka family tradition and making our own pizza. I highly recommend it.

Everyone likes pizza. It's easy to make your own pizza. Everyone gets to make the pizza they want. It's collective. It's individual. It's America. Yay, America. Okay, a couple of words about this week's show. It's an interview with Gimlets, Lydia Polgreen. Lydia, as many of you know, was a formerly a long-time New York Times reporter, and then formerly the editor-in-chief of HuffPost as part of our Code Media at Home series, which I think was a roaring success. So thanks to everyone who showed up live for that. You are hearing our live conversation on tape. It'll sound a little different than our normal podcast, but it'll work. Lydia is wicked smart, so it's always good to talk to her, and in this case, we talked to her about Gimwell's podcasting strategy and Spotify's podcast strategy and some discussion with the state of the media in general. Since you're hearing this after our conversation, you'll note a couple things. Lydia was reticent to talk about Joe Rogan, but I wanted her ask about Joe Rogan anyway. She's not in the Joe Rogan business, but her employer is, so I wanted to hear her talk about that, even though it's slightly uncomfortable. You will also notice that we talked about the future of HuffPost, which I said was for sale, and Lydia didn't think was for sale. She was kind of right, but she was definitely wrong. As we found out that night, and as you heard that night in my podcast with Jonah Peretti,

BuzzVeed bought Hoff Post.

So the analysis about where it would go isn't kind of relevant,

but it's still good to hear from her about her old employer.

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