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All right, Natasha. Special guest. Actually, this is, I was so fascinated when I heard about Jill Teets, who lives in Boston.

She runs sober powered media. And it really originated from Jill's sobriety journey.

And now she has really a mental health podcast network.

So I commend her for first getting sober and second,

running your own podcast network is so much work.

So I can't even imagine. Natasha, it's hard enough to like run one podcast show. And like Natasha and I have gone back and forth about like branching off and doing our own show. And I'm like, I don't even know if I have the bandwidth to have two shows. You have like eight or it's not, you know, you're like doing a whole network. Yeah yeah it's a lot of shows um yeah you described

it pretty accurately it's it's a lot of shows it's a lot of stress it's a lot of people it's a lot of

emails well look we're thrilled to have you on and tell your story because obviously natasha's

been super open about her sobriety journey. And, you know, she kind of will

recap that. But Jill, what I like to, not only about you taking your sobriety journey and

turning it into a network, turning it into, you know, kind of like a group therapy that people

will talk about that, the services that you offer. But I think, too, just like, you kind of got sober in an unconventional

way, not the traditional AA way, which most, which is what most people do. So Natasha, jump into,

but I don't know, I kind of thought, Jill, maybe you could start from the beginning with us and

tell us, like, when you started drinking and how you got sober. Yes, I also started drinking really

late. Most people start in high school. I did not drink at all in high school. I didn't have my first

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