Hello everyone and welcome to police off the cuff real crime stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD Sergeant Bill Cannon, a 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

Folks, this is actually my second show today on this very topic.

And of course, what we're going to cover tonight is the press conference of Johnny Ray, he's known as, the flamboyant attorney involved in the Gilgo Beach case for,

I would say, and that's more than 13 years, but specifically he was the attorney for Shannon Gilbert.

Today, I tried to cover the whole press conference.

I got in a little late and I caught about half of it.

And to my surprise, the attorney Johnny Ray had brought forth some new evidence that apparently was unaware to the Suffolk County Police because police commissioner Rodney

Harrison stood by his side during this press conference that was sort of hosted by CBS News.

And some of the things he came up with was somewhat, I would say, shocking, information that we

haven't heard before, information that didn't seem to be vetted by that it wasn't the times,

the places, what we called in the police department as the niatwi, the when, the where, the who,

the how, the what, and the why didn't seem to be verified. And not only do the police go by

the when, the where, the who, the how, the what, and the why. But so do attorneys. That's why the police go by that.

Because attorneys in a court of law hold them to that.

Hold them to that.

Because if you can't say when or where, does that not impinge upon your credibility?

Yes, it certainly does.

And in my 27 years

on the police department,

that was sort of pounded into my head.

Credibility, based on

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