It's the Mike Francesa podcast on the Bet Rivers Network.

Hello again, everybody, and welcome to the Mike Francesa podcast, part of the

BetRivers Network. We've come there after the Jets and Giants do, what the Jets and Giants always do.

What do you think you're going to get something special for Christmas? No chance.

As they both lose again today, the Jets losing badly in New Orleans, I didn't expect him to win there.

The Saints defense has played well. I think it's ranked fourth in the last four weeks.

It's played improved football.

Shuck has turned out to be a good quarterback.

They're very, very happy with him.

We mentioned him a lot prior to the draft.

He's turned out to be a good quarterback.

Like I said, they're very, very happy with him.

They feel they can build going forward.

The Jets maintain their draft position. They get nothing out of their offense

today. Let's be honest, not that you were expecting a whole lot. The giant game more interesting

from a standpoint of, you know how bad McCarthy's been. And he gets knocked out of the game right before the half, when he gets sacked, and he fumbles the ball and the Giants run it back for a touchdown.

The only offense the Giants had today.

You figured the Giants were going to have trouble today, moving the ball against the Flores defense.

Flores has had a very good career against young quarterbacks.

He confused Dart all day today.

I mean, they sacked him five times.

They really had him two other times where it was just careless tackling by the Vikings who negated two big sacks because they hit

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