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You know, it's interesting with the Giants in terms of expectation

because they played so well in Minnesota in that playoff game last year,

got their doors blown off at Philly, but the feeling going into the post, into the offseason was that strides were made,

good head coach, good front office, all of this stuff, Daniel Jones, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And yet, when you looked at the over under number, when you looked at the way people picked them,

still kind of thought of them

as like a nine-win team. Maybe if things go well, they win 10 games. I don't think anybody thought

they were a Super Bowl team, but still a postseason team. And both teams coming up way, way short

of any expectation. Yeah. And I think we know exactly what the Jets are going to be next year with

the roster standpoint. It's going to be a couple of guys that are gone. I don't think Bukai Bechtin is going to come back.

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