Welcome back. It's the big blue banter. New York Giants football podcast. I'm Dan Schneier.

Join my host, Nick Falado. We wanted to do a little bonus pod this week and talk a little future giants.

Have you want to frame this, Giants from a 30,000 foot view.

A few things going on this week that I thought were interesting about the Giants and their future.

And obviously, as we move forward in this year at 2 and 6, most of or some of the transition for us in analysis will be about the future of this team. So we're going to talk about a few things today. We're going to talk about how Joe Shane went about the Leonard Williams trade. We're going to talk about a Kvon-Tibito interview Eab with Carl Banks, including within that kvon-Tibato's game against the Jets last week following the criticism from WFAN. And then finally, we're going to talk a little bit about what this last stretch of the season means for Daniel Jones. In a lot of people's minds, probably a turning point for his future with the Giants and maybe his future in the NFL as a starting quarterback, to be quite frank. So we're going to talk about all three of those things today. But Nick, before we do that, I want to get your opinion on what you've seen so far from this Thursday in a football game. We're recording this on Thursday night. And what did you think of that first half of the Steelers and the Titans? It's just a gross first half. But Derek Henry looks good. Kenny Pickett is worse than a lot of quarterbacks in the national football league.

I'd much I'd rather have Will Levis than a Kenny Pickett type. I'll tell you that much. I am stunned. And I don't think he's played that amazing this first half. Obviously, he missed that read to DeAndre Hopkins in the red zone. That was bad. He missed the throw to Spears. but I'm just surprised at how well Levis looks in his first couple starts. I'm going to qualify that by saying I do think rookies have a little bit of an edge in their first few starts in the NFL before teams get tape on them and it can just and take away the concepts they like. But there's been some throws that Levis has made where the arm talent is really flashed Nick. The throw to Kyle Phillips down the scene. The throw last week, obviously, the one to Akeen Westbrook across his body, across the formation.

That's like a rare type of throw that like only Rogers in his prime was making a Jordy Nelson type of stuff. Like that's the type of arm talent that I didn't really see at his Kentucky. This is the thing for me. Like his arm talent somehow looks better to me by a considerable margin than the tape you put out of Kentucky. And I always qualify this by saying most of what I watch, and this is all the take on this, but most of what I watch was his tape from 2021 with Wondell Robinson because I obviously watching Wandoz Robinson. I watched a couple of games from last year, but I watched so many of those Wanderb's against against. I felt like a lot of time the ball was hanging on the vertical plane and it was misplaced.

And I feel like he's really cut the ball in the first two games. I watched his tape, the full tape last week against the Falcons. And his ball really cut. I mean, this was a natural quick release and the ball cut through the air. And I saw that on that Kyle Phillips throw this game as well. I don't think physical traits was ever his issue. It was just mental mistakes, irresponsible with the football.

It was always Will Levis.

Which can still, by the football was always Will Levis.

Which can still, by the way, prop up a lot. Which can still prop up a lot. But I think DeAndre Hopkins is quite happy that he's in there because he's looking at DeAndre Hopkins quite often. is and he throwing the football heart like the comeback route he hit hopkins on that's not a

throw tann Hill makes.

Like he rips that ball in there.

And that's why that play is made and why he has that yak ability.

But let's talk Giants here.

Let's start with the Leonard Williams trade.

I thought we had a really interesting insight this week.

When Leonard Williams said to the Seahawks media when he starts meeting with them,

he gave them a little insight into the process. And so we're going to play that right now for you guys.

Could be coming with sort of your name being thrown around in possible trade discussions

like that. I mean, I definitely knew it was a possibility. And I think, you know, the way it was

proposed to me through my GM and with my agents was a respectful way, I think.

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