when it comes to Cliff Kingsbury attacking the leverage of the New York Giants successfully.

And also from a running standpoint, they did a phenomenal job creating extra gaps,

pulling linemen and disguising their intentions pre-snap. They would use, they would use

pre-snap motion to one, two times. And the giants would see it. It would get in their minds.

Nothing really happened. Well, if that pre-stamp motion, oh, this time we're going to actually touch past it. It would get in their minds out. Nothing really happened.

Well, that pre-stamp motion,

oh, this time we're going to actually touch pass it. And now you need to make a play. And credit to Andrew Phillips on the one touch pass that they successfully ran, he was able to spin off the guy and make that tackle. Drew Phillips was phenomenal in this game. There was another touch pass prior to that, which makes me think Andrew Phillips knew what was coming because they put it on film

and then in the subsequent drive he was able to stop it. game. There was another touch pass prior to that, which makes me think Andrew Phillips knew what

was coming because they put it on film and then in the subsequent drive, he was able to stop it, where Jane Daniels tried to touch pass, it couldn't basically like bobbled the football and then he ended up just running for like a yard or maybe he got quote unquote sacked because the Giants, it doesn't seem like it, had five sacks in this game. You watch this, you're like, oh wow the giants are really getting pressure i didn't know they're not because a lot of the sacks

with jane daniels running around like a chicken what it's It doesn't seem like it had five sacks in this game. When you watch this, you're like, oh, wow, the Giants are really getting pressure.

No, they're not because a lot of the sacks with Jane Daniels running around like a chicken with his head cut off. And then Andrew Phillips coming up and hitting him behind the line of scrimmage, technically a sack. Yeah. The one true sack that they had got negated because of the defensive hold, which was a complete BS call. I can't believe they threw that.

I think the only reason they threw that

it was because it was old man, which was a complete BS call. I can't believe they threw

that. I think the only reason they threw that, it was because it was old man Zachertz against the rookie. And they're just like, oh, well, the rookie probably grabbed them. It's like, no, Zacherts initiated that contact. Andrew Phillips has every right to that space when he's in man coverage like that. But that's why you run tight man coverage, you run those bunch releases because sometimes the The refs get over anxious, roll the freaking flag.

The refs anticipate calls a lot.

The refs get over-anxious

and roll the freaking flag.

The refs anticipate calls a lot.

The refs definitely anticipated what they thought. It's a much bigger problem in the NBA when I watch. It's the most impossible to watch at times, but the NFL's bad too. You know, one thing I love about this job, Nick, before you get into this too deeply, is, are more in depth is that people who listen to our show, Nick,

they're like diehard fans.

They're the people who love the X as and O's, the film, the Y. And so it leads to a lot of these offshoot conversations and DMs. And that's probably my favorite part about doing what we do. And I had this conversation with somebody today, a listener of the show. And he's like, straight up, point blank, I think if Wink-Marndale was the coordinator of the Giants,

we would have won that football game. And I think he's right. And it's not just to say that sit here and say Wink-Martindale, some special defense coordinator of the Giants. I can't believe they let him out of their grass because he had his warts and he's having a tough time at Michigan right now. But in this specific game, and I mentioned this on yesterday's show, Nick, this was not the game to play soft, to play off coverage. This is not the, this is the game where you need a specific game plan to attack this style of offense. And that game plan needs to have guys rallying to around the line of scrimmage all game, all game around the scrimmage for multiple reasons. One, because of what you just said with how they're designing the passing game,

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