So it was really an enjoyable listen. And it just goes to show how much tape you guys have watched and what you guys have studied.

So I want to start before the draft, though, with the Giants. And I want to start with just the start of the off season for the Giants and the decision to move on from Wink Martindale, their former defensive coordinator, bringing Shane Bowen. I don't want to say it's running the polar opposite system, but there's a stark contrast when I watch these two coordinators on tape and what they're trying to do.

What do you make of the Shane Bowen edition for the Giants?

Do you have any insight maybe

what fans can expect based on what he ran in Tennessee? Yeah, definitely, you're right, a very

different type of defensive scheme. Having said that, pretty much everybody's defense is a very

different defensive scheme for Wing Martindales. I mean, he is one of the few coordinators really out on an island in terms of running his own

system that not many other people are running and certainly nowhere near the sort of variant

of that defense that he is running, even coaches that have coached with him in the past or guys that

are maybe offshoots from the similar coaching tree.

So any shift from Wing Martindale was going to go in a radically different direction.

And yeah, this is definitely one of the more sort of complete about faces that they could have made,

though.

You know, ultimately, I think it's probably the right decision in terms of moving in that

direction makes sense.

Like Wink Martindale runs a good defense, but it is a very, very unusual defense.

It's not one that a lot of other teams are running.

And so it's more difficult, I think, to find players for that, You know, and you have to build an entire scheme and an entire group of personnel to fit that defense.

Whereas if you're living in this world of coaching turnover year to year, you maybe want a little bit more versatility in your scheme than that and be able to take players

from different systems all over the defense and plug into the next system.

And it's closer to what they've been running before in the past.

So there's not as big of an adjustment to be made.

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