All right. Welcome back. It's the Big Blue Banter, New York Giants football podcast. Dan Schneier joined, as always, my co-s, Nick Falado. Another nightmare game for the Giants. Just a total bottoming out. Not competitive. They lose Germain Illuminaure early, probably Hamstrung more of what they wanted to do than we thought maybe going into it. a little bit of a spark in the second half from an offense standpoint, going past first,

but not much, no finishing.

In addition to, we didn't get to see that anticipation, Brian Dave will talk about with Tommy Davido.

Tyrone Tracy, guy we're really excited about fumbled again, Nick and was seemingly

benched for a little while after that came back in, but not potentially may lose some snaps

down the stretch due to these fumbling issues. So even something we were excited about about this team,

it's hard to find you know, we lose that excitement and they take it away from us.

I don't know, where do you

want to start here? There's so much to discuss here. I have a few main things I want to talk on,

which are the quarterback, the coach, and the GM, but where do you want to go with it?

I say we use a Dan Schneier term, 30,000 foot view. And I just don't know how Brian Dable can survive this season if this is the product he's putting out there because it wasn't just like, hey, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are a better football team than the New York Giants.

If that's the case, so be it.

The Giants looked lifeless out there.

Like Halloween was last month, right?

And they were all zombies because they were just corpses walking around out there.

It was terrible.

It was a terrible effort.

The defense had their gap integrity, their angles of pursuit, they're so inconsistent.

And they're not playing, as I like to say, cohesive football.

And you can tell they're so frustrated. And I don't know how many times a ball is going to be thrown over one of these receivers heads and you see their head go up and their arms, but they try to like restrain themselves. Everybody is upset. This culture right now in this locker room, it has to be so toxic. And a lot of it is just due to mediocrity. And when it's due to

mediocrity, whose fault is that, man? And it's, yeah, look, the talent isn't great, but it's not

this bad either. So it sucks, man, but like, I just don't know how a coach makes it to the

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