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So I don't know what you're going to do for your show if you're going to have a song or not.

But like what we do on ours is we have a song and usually people... Woman singing.

Yeah, there's a woman singing it because we're like embracing like, you know,

obviously we have two men as hosts and a man producer and we want that female energy

infused.

Yeah, today we do.

So we want that female energy infused so that everyone knows like, hey, you're all welcome

here.

So you may want to try to do that.

And a guy sings it, but I'll let him know.

It might be nice to have one, like that, that, that, that female presence.

Yeah.

Just so people can listen and be like, okay, this is actually okay.

And then if it's, if it's every episode that it's accounted for, so I never need a female

guest. That's what we've found is we, you know, I think we've kind of backed into having them

every now and then, but for the most part, it's all men guests and that is fine because there's a

woman singing the song. And it can be nice to start the show with, like, hearing a woman sing to you.

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