Grammar Girl here. I'm In Yon Fogarty, and for the next few weeks, while we're taking a season break,

we're releasing some of the best of the best bonus episodes that people who support the show

got during the last interview season. This week, you're getting the behind-the-scenes conversation

with Dan Gerstein,

who runs Gotham Ghost Writers, and we're talking about the special joys and problems of

ghostwriting fiction. We do these kind of extras every time I do an interview, so almost every week,

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Welcome to your bonus episode for our interview with Dan Gerstein, founder of Gotham Ghost Writers.

Check out the main segment if you haven't checked that out already. But Dan has been a prominent political speech writer. He's been doing writing and communications work

for more than 30 years. He has a degree from Harvard. He's taught at NYU PR and Communications

School and just is, you know, one of the leading voices on ghost writing. And so, Dan, thanks

so much for being here. Thank you for having me. You bet. So, you know, we talked a lot about nonfiction ghost writing in the main episode.

But, you know, it also happens for fiction.

And I suspect that that's sort of a different thing that working on a creative project is different from working on a fact-based project.

So can you talk about sort of how ghostwriting for fiction works?

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