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The Ben Ferguson Podcast

Ghosts on the Payroll & Families Paid to ‘Hang Out’ in Ohio's Fraud Factory

The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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News, Politics, News Commentary

4.85.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

1. Alleged Medicaid Fraud Scheme (Ohio Example)

  • Medicaid funds are reportedly being used for “home healthcare” services like cooking, cleaning, or companionship.
  • Many caregivers are family members of the patient, sometimes paid simply to spend time together.
  • These services are hard to verify because they occur inside private homes.

2. Rapid Growth of “Home Healthcare” Businesses

  • Large numbers of companies have appeared billing Medicaid heavily.
  • Some:
    • Have no real offices or staff
    • Share addresses with dozens of other companies
    • Reach “full capacity” almost immediately
  • One building allegedly housed 94 companies billing Medicaid, totaling tens of millions.

3. Questionable Business Practices

    • Individuals with criminal records or unpaid debts running companies
    • Businesses created in unrelated industries suddenly becoming healthcare providers
    • Owners allegedly earning millions quickly through government billing

4. Weak Oversight & System Gaps

    • The government cannot effectively verify services provided
    • Documentation alone allows payments (“if there’s paperwork, it gets paid”)
    • Doctors can authorize services with minimal scrutiny
  • Program described as having no effective spending cap

5. “Ghost Recipients” (Deceased Individuals)

  • States that ~186,000 deceased individuals were still receiving benefits.
  • Suggests identity fraud and lack of system checks.

6. Broader Fraud Claims Across Government Programs

  • Fraud is widespread in:
    • Medicaid and Medicare
    • COVID relief programs
    • Unemployment benefits
    • Food assistance programs
  • Estimated losses: hundreds of billions of dollars in improper payments.

7. Political & Systemic Criticism

    • Government officials have known about fraud but failed to act
    • There may be political incentives and corruption
    • Taxpayers bear the financial burden while fraud continues

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.5

Fraud is something we are saying that is now being exposed at levels that none of us could

0:10.5

have actually imagined even after what we'd already found in Minnesota.

0:15.2

Now, there's a lot of people that thought, well, this is just fraud that's going to happen

0:18.4

in extreme places where there's hardcore liberals. We're now saying that is not true. I'm going to take you to Ohio, and I'm

0:26.5

going to tell you about this story. I'm going to ask you at the very beginning, share this story

0:31.0

on social media, all right? Because people need to know that what we're witnessing now with fraud

0:36.0

is not just in the liberal states.

0:39.0

Democrats have figured out how to steal and these immigrants and illegal immigrants in every state in America.

0:45.9

Now, let me set the stage for you.

0:48.2

Just before the Department of Government Efficiency closed its doors, it made a quiet move, keyword quiet move, that may end

0:56.9

up its most lasting impact on the federal deficit. Doge published a massive trove of data in February

1:06.1

that for the first time lets the public see what companies are billing Medicaid for.

1:12.7

Now, for decades, all right, the payouts have been shrouded in secrecy, and now we understand

1:19.0

why.

1:20.3

One of the largest government programs, in essence, was a black box that the government

1:25.8

made that way so that there could be kickbacks,

1:29.6

waste, fraud, and abuse that we would never see. Now, this interesting article that's been put out by

1:35.6

a man, Luke Raziac, he spent the last two months digging into the numbers. And what he found was

1:43.5

the most blatant waste of federal dollars.

1:46.6

He says he's ever encountered in his two decades as an investigative journalist.

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