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Reliable Sources

Getty's John Moore describes his iconic border photo -- and what it doesn't show

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3.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2018

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

John Moore's photo of a crying girl at the U.S. border became a symbol of Trump's family separations policy. But the girl wasn't actually separated from her mother. Moore talks with Brian Stelter about how the photo was used on the cover of Time magazine and how pro-Trump media outlets weaponized the controversy over the photo. No matter what, it is an "honest" picture, Moore said, displaying the pain of migrants who cross into the country. He also discusses the broader challenges of covering immigration.To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

What can a photograph tell you and what can a photo hide? I'm Brian Selter and this is the

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reliable sources podcast. Our weekly chance to go in depth with media leaders and

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newsmakers.

0:16.8

I'm recording this on Friday, June 22nd, the end of a week marked by heartbreaking news

0:21.7

about families being broken up by the US government.

0:26.2

These families crossed the southern border illegally.

0:29.4

The president wants to put a stop to these border crossings, but this week he put a stop to his own policy

0:35.1

amid an international outcry.

0:38.6

There are still many, many children separated from their parents.

0:44.1

No one quite knows how this story is going to unfold.

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But my next guest took the iconic photo

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of this border crisis.

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It's the photo of a little girl standing, crying, suffering

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while her mother was being detained. The photo became a symbol of the family separation policy.

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It was used that way on the cover of Time magazine.

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But that's not what the photo actually showed.

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Getty photographer John Moore joins me now.

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John, let's start with the facts.

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What was the photo depicting?

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What did you witness on June 12th along the border?

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Well Brian, I had been photographing the Border Patrol as they detained people and then took people into custody.

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In this particular photo which touched me very much and many other people in the course of this last week,

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