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It's a stereotype but I think it's a pretty slash marriage Now Aaron Smalley I'm sure you've never said that to Greg right?

Oh never never I've never said that and I've never heard another woman say that.

Yeah not just listen to me listen to every word I just said oh I, I can get exhausted. My wife likes to think and process aloud and sometimes I just have to say

You'll lost me, hon. I'm sorry I'm trying.

Could we just sit here in silence and just hold each other?

Yes.

Oh, you too?

I'm not holding you.

Oh, yeah.

Let's move on to shall we to the planned conversation that we had with Dr David Clark, Jim Daly and I sat down with

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