What's going on everyone? Welcome back to the Epic Gardening Podcast. We're joined again by

Lisa Steele, who is the founder of the amazing website Fresh Eggs Daily and also the author of the book Gardening with chickens which I

highly encourage you to check out and pick up a copy the link will be in the

podcast description so yesterday Lisa we talked kind of about the bare bones of getting started with chickens, the absolute

basics of what you need and how to maybe keep them out of certain parts of the garden that you don't

want them in, but there's also a lot of benefits to having them in the garden throughout the entire year.

So I would love, I guess first to kind of talk about some of the benefits that you get from having chickens

in the garden.

I know I feel bad.

Anyone who listened yesterday, we kind of painted chickens to be these

horrible destructive creatures and I'm sure no one wants them now but they actually are

really really wonderful it wasn't Iened for a long time before we had

chickens and it wasn't until I got the chickens that I realized the synergy and

really how beneficial they can be instead of penning the chickens up and

fencing in the garden if you kind of merge them together

you really reap a lot of benefits not only for the garden but for the chickens.

So starting in the spring you're getting your soil ready you're out there you're kind of picking out

weeds and rocks and you know just just prepping your soil it's a great time to

have the chickens out there with you they will eat any weed seeds they find they They'll eat any bugs that overwintered bug larva.

And as they're walking, they're kind of scratching at the soil and they're tilling it, but much more gently than a traditional rototiller so they do a really nice

kind of topsoil loosening and aerating for you before you get your garden planted.

So that's spring. So they are super helpful in the spring. Once you've planted your

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