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Getting Whole

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2018

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Virginia Heffernan talks to BuzzFeed's Anthony Cormier about the FBI investigation that nearly had Paul Manafort before the Trump campaign, the result of that, and why Anthony doesn't think Paul Manafort will flip. Plus, the two try to make sense of the Nastya Rybka story which may entangle both Manafort and Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Did you offer those private briefings to you as a way to try and repay that debt, Mr. DeRapaska?

0:06.0

It's a big issue in the United States, sir.

0:09.0

Did you offer those private briefings to try and repay some of that debt to you? Is that why?

0:15.0

You offered them.

0:18.0

Get lost, please.

0:21.0

You have manifold proactively and sort of aggressively trying to brief a Russian aligarch with ties to the Kremlin.

0:29.0

Manifording gates, manifolding gates. This was a collaborative criminal enterprise.

0:35.0

You went on to say I had hoped and expected my business colleague would have had the strength to continue the battle to prove our innocence.

0:44.0

Hello and welcome to Trumpcast. I'm Virginia Heffernin. So you know, when Jacob Weisberg, Trumpcast's creator, asked me to come on as his co-host.

0:52.0

I had one question for him and for Slate. Trumpcast, eh? How do I use this job to get whole?

0:59.0

Because we've all got debt. I mean, credit cards are not going to use themselves. And when my dad asked me recently if I'd ever carried a balance from one month to another,

1:07.0

that was the first time I learned that there even is something called carrying a balance that's apart from just having a credit card.

1:14.0

So yes, debt, it's the American way.

1:17.0

But while I sometimes carry balances of as much as $1,000, with some of us, it gets a little more out of hand.

1:24.0

I'm talking about people like Jared Kushner, who's been known to carry a balance or two on things like the Watch Tower building in Brooklyn,

1:30.0

and that devilishly debt-ridden pile 6665th Avenue.

1:35.0

Former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn probably owed someone something when he allegedly got involved in a plan to kidnap a Turkish cleric from the Adirondacks for $15 million.

1:45.0

And Jared kept having his money fall through until, according to the New York Times, he started letting some bankers and hedge fund types into the White House for influence of the American government.

1:54.0

And then suddenly, he could pay off his overlords. That worked out well.

2:00.0

But Paul Manafort is the king of all this.

2:03.0

He came to the Trump campaign for a shot at redemption on the run from one of the biggest, harriest bookies in Russia, Oleg Darapaska, to whom he owed untold millions.

2:12.0

If he could look sharp again, he thought if he could have a campaign in his back, pedal a little influence.

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