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Hey, it's Wendy.

And it's Jess and you're listening to the Food Heaven Podcast.

Your online resource for delicious and nutritious living.

Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Food Heaven Podcast.

Today we have a very special guest.

We have Ali Shapiro, who's a holistic nutritionist,

integrative health coach and cancer survivor.

Ali is academically, practically and empathetically aware

of how the medical system, diet, culture, and body positivity movements

all have their own flavor of crazy.

I know, that's right.

From her academic research, was she applied and tested over a decade of working with clients

and groups? Ali has learned that what we traditionally thought of as eating issues

actually have very little to do with food.

I'm so excited to chat with Ali. We were actually both on this podcast called

the Rebel Therapist, where it's actually a therapist who interviews different experts,

mostly therapists, but also kind of people who are allies or in careers that are kind of similar.

And the host actually mentioned Ali and said that we have similar philosophies and do similar work.

So she was like, you guys should just meet up, but we don't live in the same city.

So we did a Zoom meeting and I feel like, weren't we talking for like an hour and a half, Ali?

Yeah.

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