Welcome to Conversations with John and Lisa and it's actually Lisa and Julie again.

Because different JB.

Yes, different JB.

It's JPB though too.

So it's Juliana piece, Bavir, love her.

You know, Juliana, we actually were supposed to be done and then we started talking.

And there's some real dynamics going on that we've never been.

We're like in a place right now in our world with this whole virtual ability to connect

with people.

And no boundaries and no patience and instant gratification.

We're in some uncharted waters.

And I do remember many years ago, this would do in like when my kids were older than breastfeeding,

but not a whole lot.

I mean, so still not hitting puberty.

I remember being on a show with life today and everybody was talking back then about

telling your kid, you're the most special person in the world.

You're the center of my universe.

I actually was kind of a table setting, like a table talk table and I said, I'm sorry,

I think people that are told that though the most special people in the world end up being

selfish.

Yeah.

They think they are the center of the world.

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