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Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show. We have a great show for you today.

In today's episode, we're getting real about COVID-19, some stunning, stunning reports breaking in the past day or so about its origins and the vaccines.

We've got the former FDA commissioner and now actually the author of the New York Times best seller uncontrolled spread Scott Gottlieb today.

Really looking forward to that discussion. He'll be here in just a bit. We'll talk about natural immunity. He's on the Pfizer board.

What does he think about natural immunity? We're going to get into that. The increasing politicization of the vaccines, politicization. It's hard to say that word.

And also the top mistakes that the US made when it came to the pandemic. Did the lockdowns help? He's still defending them, I think.

Do masks really work? We'll get into that and we'll get into the truth on all of that. Plus he's going to take your calls. How about that? It's exciting.

But first, Washington Post columnist Josh Rogan is here. He joins us again to talk about how science is closing in on COVID's origins.

And the signs of course points to the lab leak theory, but some are still denying it. And what's going on with the US agency for international development and their new project to dig up more viruses around the world.

That was an announcement that just came out. Didn't we didn't we just get through a pandemic or still in the midst of one as a result of folks doing that trying to say, oh, let's take the virus. See how we can make it more dangerous.

All in the name of keeping us more safe. Yeah, how that workout. Josh, thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having me. Congrats on the new show.

Thank you, sir. Okay. So by the way, your your episode where we talked about the over the origins of COVID and all the COVID stuff.

The first time you came on is still just killing it in our archives. So I recommend it to everybody and read.

Generally people want to know how we got into this mess so that we don't have to do this every two years as it turns out.

Even though the Biden administration doesn't seem to want to know the Chinese definitely don't want to know WHO doesn't seem to want to know.

But Americans want to know how did we get into this nightmare, this pandemic?

Because unless we forget that out, we can't figure out how to keep our country safe. That's right.

What's the point? And it's been such a lackluster effort on our part to actually get to the origins. Let me just spend one minute with you on that.

Since you're following it so closely, the Biden administration took another look at this after the WHO fell down on the job that guy Peter Dazick was on the committee.

They went over to China. They didn't see anything. They didn't push back. They were followed around by Chinese miners the whole time.

Minders, not miners. That would be weird. And they so then they came back with this balloony conclusion. And then the Biden administration said, all right, we're going to take a closer look.

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