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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Getting Personal With Personal Finance Ginger Kim

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Investing, Business, Careers

4.8 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 September 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Kim walked away from her job with $1.9 million saved but didn't realize she'd already crossed the finish line until a friend pointed it out. That revelation sparked what she calls "surprise FI"—reaching financial independence without consciously chasing it. Ginger sits down with Kim to explore how her naturally frugal lifestyle and minimalist approach enabled her to retire at 48, spending just 1.5% of her savings annually while traveling freely and living exactly as she chooses. [00:00:52] Introduction to Kim's Journey Kim explains how a casual conversation at the Extraordinary Life event in Vegas led her to discover she had achieved financial independence without explicitly planning for it. [00:03:40] The Concept of Surprise FI Kim defines "surprise FI" as realizing you've reached financial independence unexpectedly, often because you were too focused on work to notice you'd already saved enough to retire. [00:05:19] Transitioning to Retirement Kim discusses her decision to take a leave of absence before fully committing to retirement, testing what life without work would feel like before making it permanent. [00:08:04] Living Frugally and Financially Secure Practical insights on Kim's frugal lifestyle and how spending only 1.4-1.5% of her total savings annually provides peace of mind and financial security. [00:12:30] Traveling and Lifestyle Choices Kim describes her unique living arrangements—renting a two-bedroom apartment for flexibility—and her adventurous lifestyle on the road, prioritizing experiences over possessions. [00:20:07] Challenges of Dating post-FI The complexities of dating while living a financially independent and nomadic lifestyle, and finding partners who share a passion for adventure. [00:33:16] Resources for Financial Independence Recommendations for further reading and tools for financial planning, including Your Money or Your Life and the Rich, Broke, or Dead retirement planner. [00:38:05] Recommendations for Life After Work Inspiring advice on making the most of life after retirement and embracing the freedom that comes with financial independence. Key Insights Many people may not realize they've achieved financial independence until someone points it out—Kim had enough to retire but kept working because she hadn't done the math. Embracing a frugal lifestyle provides peace of mind and the freedom to travel more without constant worry about finances. Having money outside of retirement accounts can alleviate financial concerns when considering early retirement, giving you more flexibility. Living minimally has allowed Kim to appreciate experiences without the burden of excess clutter, enhancing her overall quality of life. Actionable Information Consider a leave of absence to gauge your feelings about retirement before quitting permanently. [00:05:19] Evaluate spending habits and aim for a frugal lifestyle to enhance financial security. [00:11:03] Use retirement planning tools like Rich, Broke, or Dead to clarify your financial situation. [00:34:10] Journal your current financial status and goals to gain better knowledge of your position. [00:34:42] Create a budget that reflects a lower cost of living; aim for minimalism in daily expenses. [00:11:05] Notable Quotes "It's as if you've been running a marathon, but you passed the finish line way back there." [00:04:13] "I wake up and I don't have to go to work." [00:07:08] "I've always just been super, super frugal and spending that much on a condo just didn't feel right." [00:11:05] "I want to travel with someone who can live the fun, exciting, adventure-filled life that I want." [00:22:27] Related Resources Your Money or Your Life [00:34:10] Rich, Broke, or Dead Retirement Planner at https://richbrokordead.com [00:34:42] Episode Mentions Episode 18: Capital Gains Harvesting - Never Pay Taxes Again [00:41:24] Afford Anything Episode: Financial Independence After 70 [00:41:24]

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi everybody it's ginger and I'm here today without Brad.

0:04.0

Brad often talks about how this is the ultimate crowdsource personal finance

0:08.3

podcast so many of the questions and ideas and strategies come from you guys come from the community and

0:14.8

today's episode is in that tradition but I want to ask along with those hacks and analyses

0:21.8

can we get personal about personal finance.

0:25.0

So today I'm interviewing Kim, a member of this community who is financially independent,

0:30.0

and we're going to talk about how she accomplished that feat and then I'm going to ask her all of the

0:36.3

questions that you are dying to hear the answers to you. So stay tuned and welcome to choose if I.

0:50.0

Kim! Chincher!

0:51.0

We have to start by telling the story of how we are sitting here in my living room together.

0:59.0

By all rights, we should not be here, sipping coffee on your couch.

1:02.0

It's too bizarre. It's too bizarre. So I met Kim at the

1:06.0

extraordinary life event in Vegas and actually I met her about the last hour that I was at the event.

1:14.7

We ended up at the same table.

1:16.6

And she's one of those people who you just like instantly,

1:21.0

like in the first minute. And you know how it is like that with some people.

1:26.2

And there's other people who, on paper, you have so much in common with, and you know that

1:31.6

you should be really great friends and it just

1:33.4

doesn't work and then there's people who you meet instantly and you want to be

1:36.9

their friend I felt that way about you. I was so sad when you said you had to leave

1:40.9

so Kim was one of those people and we really connected in that short little time and then I had to catch a plane. I actually got to the airport way too early and I was like embarrassed for myself even though no one knew that that's what had happened. I was like why am I sitting here?

1:58.8

But I was so worried about missing the flight. But anyway, so that's where we met and then recently I was talking to

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