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with many top business leaders and he guides them in transcending the egoic

conditioning that actually limits their impact on other people and

also their capacity to impact social change. And so in this conversation, we look at what he's learned

about inner freedom and awakening and being in the role whatever role we're in at work at home in a way that is

expressing our inner freedom and he speaks about his own inner trauma

and what, you know, how the different practices

have helped him with trauma.

He draws on 60 years, 60 years, a spiritual practice. He draws on models of adult development that show

that there's the ego-levels and then there's what's beyond the ego and he draws on the poetry of Lautu.

Personal disclosure Stephen is a best friend of over 50 years,

and he was my first real inspiration

in terms of meditation.

He really helped to evoke in me a love of meditation.

I hope you'll enjoy.

Welcome Stephen, thank you for doing this with me.

Ah, this is a delight. So I wanted to jump right in. I have the first kind of main thing I wanted to ask you about. you meditate more than anyone I know for the most part.

I mean, you have done hours and hours of practice a day for something like 60 years.

And for those listening, Stephen and I met about 50 years ago.

So he's one of my oldest bestest friends and speaking to you Stephen you

are pretty much my first inspiration about meditating and you guided me. You're a

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