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Warm up the kettle, it's time to spill some tea.

Let's get spill some tea.

Let's get into some shenanigans with Shina Shay. Welcome back to shenanigans everyone I am coming to you from my friend Jesse's

lovely studio here in the back of Jay-Z style salon in Utah.

I flew in specifically for this and I'm like physically shaking to be in the presence of this week's guest.

She is a boss lady, a tequila entrepreneur, a fashion queen, a mother who

birthed baby gorgeous into this world and the ogy of real housewives of Salt Lake City.

Give it up for my girl Lisa Barlow.

Hey, Sheena. Hi.

Hi. Are you feeling good as gold today?

I'm feeling good as gold after that introduction, how could I not?

I have been wanting to get you on shenanigans for so long. I'm so happy we're finally making it happen.

I'd to fly to Utah for it, but all with it. I'm like like we got to do this. I'm so glad you did. Me too I feel the same way. Yeah every time I'm like are you in

L. A anytime soon I'm like you know what I'm just gonna go to Utah I'll make it easy for you. Come to the mountains. Yes, I love it. We're driving here and my sister's looking around and she's like,

all right, there's there's something about this place like the grass is green, the sprinklers are on,

the streets are well paved. I like is this our sign to leave

California I think it's your sign I think you guys are gonna end up in the ocean I mean it's just it's so

crazy how crazy it's so crazy but it's beautiful here things I love it it's so

beautiful I love LA too but I don't feel like it's the same city it was pre-Covet do you know

and I mean I'm born and raised there but it is just different and during COVID I escaped I went down to San Diego for a bit and then I came back and I drove down Melrose and I'm like what is this?

All of these restaurants I used to go to just so many things closed I mean it's definitely a different vibe

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