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Code Switch

Getting let down by the 'Great Expectations' of electoral politics

Code Switch

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Society & Culture

4.614.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2024

⏱️ 21 minutes

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This episode is brought to you by our play cousins over at NPR's It's Been A Minute. Brittany Luse chops it up with New Yorker writer and podcast host Vinson Cunningham to discuss his debut novel Great Expectations. It's a period piece that follows the story of a young man working on an election campaign that echoes Obama's 2008 run. Brittany and Vinson discuss American politics as a sort of religion - and why belief in politics has changed so much in the last decade.

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on NPR's Through Line.

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Bread, freedom and national dignity.

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It was time for the regime to fix itself.

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That's why I was going out.

0:14.2

Remembering the Arab Spring.

0:16.5

Find NPR's Thuleine, wherever you get your podcasts.

0:22.3

What's good, you're listening to Code Switch from NPR. I'm Gene Debbie. And once again

0:27.1

y'all we find ourselves in the middle of yet another presidential election cycle.

0:32.0

Like, damn we just just do this and tell me if I'm wrong

0:36.0

but it seems like the general feeling out there about all of this is somewhere

0:40.8

between I don't know deep Malays and existential dread.

0:45.0

There was a time though and it wasn't that long ago during another presidential election cycle

0:50.0

when people were genuinely hopeful.

0:52.7

Even though the country was then involved in two ugly, intractable wars,

0:57.1

even though people were losing their homes

0:58.5

as part of the spiraling financial crisis,

1:00.8

like things were not going great for a lot of people and yet that time I'm

1:05.8

talking about the heady days of 2008 is such a stark contrast to this moment

1:11.8

many of the things that are crises today were still looming

1:16.8

back then. They were moving inexorably closer to us, but still a little further

1:21.9

out over the horizon and there was real optimism that maybe, just maybe, some of those things might be interrupted or at least mitigated.

1:32.0

At the center of all that optimism

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