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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Getting it Right

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.76.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2021

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

This week, Jonah brings The Remnant to you from the ice-wracked void of Austin, Texas. His guest is Stephanie Slade, the managing editor of Reason magazine. Stephanie and Jonah provide some helpful explanations of what the oldest coalition of modern conservatism (i.e. “fusionism”) really is, who its members were, and what its political motivations were. Then, in an instance of “violent agreement,” our two intrepid intellectual explorers refute the idea that this fusionist project is a “dead consensus” or that it necessarily precludes membership from libertarians. Interestingly, Jonah thinks that the tensions within fusionism are strong enough that “it doesn’t make sense as a purely philosophical project,” but Stephanie is confident that American political history indicates that the tension between virtue and freedom is resolved within the fusion of these different branches of conservatism. Show Notes: -Stephanie Slade’s Reason archive -Stephanie: “Is There a Future for Fusionism?” -M. Stanton Evans: The Theme is Freedom -Jonah: “Fusionism Today” -Ramesh Ponnuru: “Fusionists and Fissionists” -Murray Rothbard: “Frank S. Meyer: The Fusionist as Libertarian” -Frank Meyer v. L. Brent Bozell Jr. -Daniel E. Burns: “Liberal Practice v. Liberal Theory” -Donald Devine’s The Enduring Tension: Capitalism and the Moral Order -William James’ “blooming, buzzing confusion” -Post-liberal conservatives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Oh

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Ladies and gentlemen

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Can I please have your attention?

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We have a great show for you, right?

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I

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Greetings here listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg host of the Remnant podcast caught coming to you from ice station zebra in

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Austin, Texas

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I don't know if these clarifying things are

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required but just in case you should know I'm doing this over hotel Wi-Fi

0:48.4

Under less than fully auspicious circumstances

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There is ambient noise from time to time from the hallway because the hotel is filling up with refugee families who have lost hour and

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We can also sometimes hear the elevators grinding and the heat come on

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Also my coin operated dialysis machine goes Chipacadette Chipacadette when I run out of quarters

1:13.2

So that may come into things as well

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Also, we are having some technological issues with our guests

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So I've been told I cannot interrupt or talk over her or a little ruin parts of the audio so that gives her free reign

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to

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Dominate this podcast much like Tucker Carlson says libertarians have been dominating Washington for the last 30 years so

1:38.5

If you haven't guessed yet or follow me on Twitter you can write us who

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Today's guest is this is I believe her second time back on the podcast. It is Stephanie Slade from Reason magazine

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One of the one of my favorite

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libertarians because she's

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