You know, before we jump in our interview today,

this is an important time for family life,

is we come to the end of 2021,

it's time for year-end giving.

I don't know if people understand

for a ministry like ours, year-end giving sustains us.

Oh yeah.

And enables us to be able to do it

we've done in 2021 and 2022 and beyond.

And so.

And we really wanna continue to impact marriages,

to impact families, we wanna help you.

Yeah, and so you can help us.

And listen to this,

partners who have given up to $2 million as a matching gift.

So I think you give up to $2 million will be doubled

to help this ministry continue to go.

Did you hear that?

That's like the best deal ever.

I mean, that's amazing.

And as a gift to you forgiving,

we're gonna send you Dane Ortland's devotional.

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