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Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

GETTING CURIOUS | How Can We Show Up For Mutual Aid? (ICYMI) with Dean Spade

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

Sony Music

Science, Self-improvement, Comedy, Education, Society & Culture

4.9 • 21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

This holiday season, we’re inviting Getting Curious listeners to reflect on what it means to be in community. In that spirit, we’re re-releasing a conversation about mutual aid with the writer and activist Dean Spade. Mutual aid is all about meeting people’s survival needs at a local level, and building sustained, decentralized, compassionate support networks. We encourage you to take a listen to Dean and Jonathan’s conversation, then take some time to learn about—and get involved in—mutual aid initiatives in your community. Dean Spade has been working to build queer and trans liberation based in racial and economic justice for the past two decades. He’s the author of Normal Life: Administrative Violence, Critical Trans Politics, and the Limits of Law, the director of the documentary “Pinkwashing Exposed: Seattle Fights Back!,” and the creator of the mutual aid toolkit at BigDoorBrigade.com. His latest book, Mutual Aid: Building Solidarity During This Crisis (and the Next), was published by Verso Press in October 2020. You can follow Dean on Instagram @spade.dean and Twitter @deanspade. Want to take action but not sure where to start? Here are some resources Dean recommends: Shit’s Totally FUCKED! What Can We Do?: A Mutual Aid Explainer What is Mutual Aid? (Classroom Version) Workshop Series: Building Capacity for Mutual Aid Groups Truthout’s Movement Memos: Dean Spade Is Asking Activists, “How Much Bolder Could You Be?” And if you’re curious about Dean’s work beyond mutual aid, check out how he approaches the romance myth from a feminist, radical perspective: New Romance Webinar: Dismantling the Cycle of Romance Follow us on Instagram and Twitter @CuriousWithJVN to join the conversation. Jonathan is on Instagram and Twitter @JVN and @Jonathan.Vanness on Facebook. Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com. Our executive producer is Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Zahra Crim. Our editor is Andrew Carson. Our theme music is “Freak” by QUIÑ; for more, head to TheQuinCat.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to getting curious. I'm Jonathan Van Ness and every week I sit down for a gorgeous conversation with the brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious.

0:07.5

And before we dive into this very special episode, can I just say thank you so much? I love thank you so much.

0:12.6

I love you all so much.

0:14.0

Thank you for learning with me.

0:15.1

Thank you for tuning in,

0:16.5

week after week and supporting our work

0:18.0

on getting curious.

0:18.7

We love you, we appreciate you.

0:20.6

Thank you for sharing our work,

0:21.8

just like from the bottom of my big queer heart. Thank you for sharing our work just like from the bottom of my big queer heart.

0:24.0

Thank you, I see you, and I love you.

0:27.0

This week we're re-erring one of our most impactful episodes all about mutual aid.

0:32.0

We encourage you to take a listen and then take some time to learn about mutual aid initiatives in your community. Then take another second and maybe share this episode with someone who has not heard getting curious yet. Without further ado, here's our conversation

0:44.4

with Dean Spade, where I ask him,

0:46.8

how can we show up for mutual aid?

0:51.4

Welcome to getting curious,

0:52.3

this is Jonathan Van Ness.

0:53.2

I'm so excited for our guests this week.

0:55.2

We have Dean Spade.

0:56.8

You have spent your entire career working to build

0:59.5

queer and trans liberation based in racial and economic justice,

1:02.6

including this one of my very favorite parts of the sentence,

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