GETTING CURIOUS | Can You Say Cheese? with Carlos Yescas and Lee Hennessy

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

Sony Music

Science, Self-improvement, Comedy, Education, Society & Culture

4.9 • 21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2022

⏱️ 65 minutes

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This week we’re learning all about the culture of cheese, and literal cheese cultures, with Carlos Yescas and Lee Hennessy. They join Jonathan to discuss how cheese is made, the politics and economics of the global cheese industry, and why we should enjoy Swiss cheese while we have it. It’s the episode equivalent of a gorgeous charcuterie board! Carlos Yescas is a cheese scholar, advocate, distributor, and researcher. He documents cheese traditions and stories and is currently researching raw-milk use in cheesemaking around the world. Lee Hennessy is the founder, farmer, and cheesemaker of Moxie Ridge Farm. Lee is a first-generation farmer and a transgender man with a surprising background in both wine and Hollywood. He lives and works in Argyle, NY and in his spare time he enjoys spending time with his goats, reading long fantasy series, learning to play instruments and singing. Want to stop doomscrolling? Take Carlos’ advice and learn more about cheese! He’s on TikTok @cheeseyescas and Instagram @CarlosYescas. Lee is on Instagram @hennessie. Moxie Ridge Farm is on Instagram @moxieridgefarm, and at moxieridgefarm.com. Sign up for their newsletter for information about seasonal cheese shipping, and Lee’s cheesemaking class through Small Farm School. Follow us on Instagram and Twitter @CuriousWithJVN to join the conversation. Jonathan is on Instagram and Twitter @JVN and @Jonathan.Vanness on Facebook. Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com. Our executive producer is Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Zahra Crim. Our editor is Andrew Carson. Our theme music is “Freak” by QUIÑ; for more, head to TheQuinCat.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to getting curious. I am Jonathan Van Ness honey and every week you guessed it I sit down for a gorgeous conversation with the brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious
0:09.8	Today's episode is a real gooey-ooey cheesy celebration.
0:16.4	On today's episode, we are joined by a returning guest Lee Hennessy, who we love,
0:21.2	and Carlos Yesca, where I ask them,
0:24.6	what's the story of cheese cultures?
0:29.5	Welcome back to getting curious, honey,
0:31.3	if we got an episode for you. I think you all
0:33.4	notice now that like every time we have a food expert on the show whether it's Padma
0:37.8	Lakshmi, Sola, whether it's Patty Inich Honey, I'm always asking about
0:42.4	cheese and on an episode this summer with Lee Hennessy about farming it hit me.
0:46.6	We had finally found our cheese expert so we invited Lee back to the show to talk about all things cheese.
0:54.0	Lee Hennessy, as y'all know, unless you didn't listen to that episode, in which case after this
0:57.2	episode you should go back and listen to that one.
0:59.0	Lee Hennessy is the owner, farmer, and cheesemaker at Moxie Ridge Farm, a small farm and creamery in rural upstate New York.
1:06.0	And he invited cheese scholar and chronicler, Carlos Yeskas.
1:11.0	He documents cheese traditions and stories and is currently researching raw milk use in
1:16.1	cheese making around the world.
1:18.2	And today our guiding question is, can you say cheese?
1:22.1	Welcome to the show y'all.
1:23.0	How are you doing?
1:24.0	Good, thank you for having me back.
1:26.0	Oh, man, it's literally our pleasure.
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