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🗓️ 13 June 2018
⏱️ 31 minutes
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So far, the pay gap has proved pretty impossible to solve. But most of us aren’t just going to sit here and accept that we’ll be paid less than men for our entire careers. In the last episode of The Pay Check, host Rebecca Greenfield talks to Gaby Dunn, who hosts her own podcast called Bad With Money, about what she's learned from the many people she's sought advice from on her series. Jordyn Holman also travels to Seattle for the Get Money, Get Paid conference, hosted by a group called Ladies Get Paid, and learns some important lessons about negotiation—and collaboration.
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0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
0:04.2 | A warming planet, complex geopolitics and fierce competition means business operations are under more scrutiny than ever before. |
0:13.0 | Returning to Singapore this July, the Bloomberg Sustainable Business Summit is uniting leaders and investors |
0:19.0 | to explore how sustainability efforts can bolster resilience |
0:23.0 | and mitigate risk. Learn more at Bloomberg.com slash sbsd-sbis-Singapore. That's |
0:29.3 | Bloomberg.com slash sbs-sdash-Sbass Singapore. Back in the first episode of our series, I told you a story about my mom and her fight for pay equality. |
0:50.0 | She was a surgeon who sued her employers, the State University of New York, and the hospital where she worked for pay discrimination. |
0:58.4 | After almost 10 years, she won a settlement. |
1:02.3 | But her story didn't end there. |
1:05.5 | After the lawsuit ended, as a condition of the settlement, my mom had to stop teaching at the university. |
1:11.7 | She still kept up a busy career as a practicing doctor, |
1:15.0 | but she also dedicated a lot of her time to telling other women about her experiences |
1:20.1 | so that they wouldn't have to go through what she did. |
1:24.1 | My experience has taught me that legal solutions are not solutions at all. What I lost and what I won |
1:29.2 | were not equal, not fungible, not interchangeable. I thought I was going to make them change their |
1:35.0 | ways. And I'm sorry to say that didn't occur. She was talking to a seminar of other women physicians |
1:40.3 | who came to learn about gender equity in medicine. Even though getting a settlement is a win, |
1:47.0 | she was telling them not to do what she did. Legal action is the court of last resort. If you |
1:53.2 | litigate, be prepared to leave. You may recover money. It will never be enough to cover your |
1:58.8 | legal fees. You may keep your job if you really want |
2:02.6 | it. You may get some workplace change. That's not likely. And you can sometimes recover emotional |
2:09.4 | damages. But to do that, you have to be seen by a psychiatrist who says that you've been so damaged |
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