Welcome to Conversations, Lisa. It's so great to be here with you. I cannot believe we're

already into the fall. This is ridiculous summer. I don't even remember summer. I know.

We had so much rain in Colorado, but hopefully our fall will be a little bit drier so we

can enjoy some of this beauty around here. Hopefully. Hopefully. We're talking about it.

Maybe so. Alright, so I want to open up because we are talking about hope and hope is so

important when you're living in the wilderness. I want to open up with the scripture you

close with last time. Romans 15, 13. Now I made the God of hope. So stop right there. Yeah.

He's the God of hope. So that tells me right there hope is a really good thing.

It's not the God of maybe so. He's the God of hope. Right. So let's not try to protect God's

reputation. Let's not try to protect ourselves from disappointments. Let's dare to hope. Alright?

So made the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing. So what are we believing?

The hope, right? So what comes when we believe the hope, joy and peace that you may abound in

hope by the power of the Holy Spirit? I mean, if you look at Proverbs 13, 12, it says hope

deferred makes the heart sick. So if we allow hope to be put off, our heart gets sick, our

hearts are manufactured because the Bible says guard your heart with all diligence because

out of it flows the forces of life. It's our manufacturing plan of our spirit. It's our

manufacturing plan of our spirit. I know. Isn't it though? But it's the producer. I would say

wellspring. But yes, it's the producer. It's what makes it happen. It's like it's a source.

Jesus said, and you do not doubt in your heart, but believe what you pray, she'll come to

pass. You'll have whatever you says. So if our heart doesn't believe, then what happens?

We, if we have no hope in our heart, our heart becomes sick. And if our factory, I know you love

that word, becomes sick, we're not going to be able to produce. Our stream is not refreshing.

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