Hey guys and welcome back to the ground up show. I'm your host, Matt Diavella. This is a podcast

about how to create something meaningful from nothing. And our guest today is Cruz Spence,

and he's got a really interesting career trajectory. He started out as a professional wrestler

turned dating coach, turned performance strategist. He's a really interesting character and we go through a lot

of really great, actionable steps to help you if you're feeling stuck. That conversation in a moment,

but first, if you like this podcast and you liked minimalism, a documentary about the important things,

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interviews, take a screenshot of your review and send it to hello at matdeavela.com. And now, this is Cruz

Spence, episode 25 of The Groundup Show.

Cruz Spence. Yo, yo, homie.

Welcome to the show.

I appreciate you having me.

Thank you so much for coming on.

This was so last second.

You literally texting me this morning and you're like,

you want to grab a drink?

And I said, you want to come on my podcast? And that's where

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