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The NPR Politics Podcast

Get Ready To Be Badgered: Wisconsin Is A Presidential Battleground

The NPR Politics Podcast

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Politics, Daily News, News

4.4 β€’ 25.7K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 25 August 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Wisconsin's diverse geography and intense state politics have kept it a closely-fought presidential battleground for years β€” but abortion politics and the GOP's slipping grasp on the state's evolving suburbs might be changing things.

And a family's journey to find care for their daughter β€” from Afghanistan to Mexico and then across the U.S. southern border β€” exposes the complicated state of affairs for Afghan immigrants and other migrants in the United States.

This episode: White House reporter Deepa Shivaram, senior political editor and correspondent Ron Elving, WUWM reporter Maayan Silver, and Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Eleanor and Jason from Portland, Oregon. It's my 50th birthday today. Happy birthday. Thank you, sweetie.

0:10.4

This podcast was recorded at 12 o' 8 p.m. on Friday, August 25th, 2023.

0:17.1

Things may have changed by the time you hear it, but we'll still be celebrating. I'm 50!

0:23.6

Five decades. Half a century. Oof.

0:32.1

Half a century. That's a big birthday. Oof indeed.

0:35.7

Yeah, seriously. Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Deepa Shiverum. I cover the White House.

0:40.9

And I'm Ron Elving, Editor Correspondent.

0:43.4

And WUWM's My On Silver is here. Hey there.

0:47.6

So, my aunt, you are based in Wisconsin, which is, of course, getting a lot of attention this week,

0:51.6

that is where this week's Republican presidential primary debate was held.

0:55.7

And you report a story along with our colleague, Kelsey Snow, about the state's changing politics.

1:01.7

There's a lot of power sharing in the state right now. Races in Wisconsin tend to be incredibly close,

1:06.9

as we've seen in the last several years. Can you walk us through the recent history here

1:11.2

in presidential politics in Wisconsin? Right. So, you know, when we're really talking about this,

1:16.0

four of the last six presidential races were decided by less than a single percentage point here in

1:21.8

Wisconsin. And so, Donald Trump won the state in 2016 by about 20,000 votes. And then Biden,

1:28.8

he lost the state to Biden by about 23,000 votes in 2020. So, it's just a very narrow shift that

1:35.9

tipped the state one way or the other. You know, I talked to Ben Wickler for that story. Here's the

1:40.4

chair of the Wisconsin Democrats. He said, even when there's a bazillion things going on,

1:45.2

that you think must fundamentally reshape the political landscape, both sides start at about

1:50.4

48 percent. So, it's really, really close in Wisconsin. And that's evidenced, you know,

1:56.1

the states to you as senators are of opposing parties. The legislature is Republican led while

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