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Nobody wants to be governor.

There's no real candidate in the race and no movement on the horizon. This is

fascinating. You have really for politics, for a Democrat politician, the best place to be

if you want to be in national politics, and that is governor of the largest state and a blue state.

Like governor of Massachusetts, pretty good.

Governor of Illinois, kind of a problem because Chicago's a mess.

California, well, when it comes to national politics, most people think about California in a way that they see it on TV.

Like most Americans will never visit California.

And the few Americans that do go to events.

They're here for a reason.

So they go directly to the airport, take a ride to the hotel for the conference or go to the convention center, or they're here for a ball game, football game, baseball game, right? I mean, think about it. For most Americans, the Cal, the Los Angeles they see is the overhead view of Dodger Stadium during the World Series.

And it looks fantastic.

Dodger Stadium looks spectacular on TV.

Where I live, Petco Park looks spectacular on TV.

Right. Levi Stadium in San Francisco looks amazing on TV.

So for most Americans, they don't think of California as having the kinds of problems that you and I who live here, no.

So California is a great place to springboard to national politics, which is why Gavin Newsom is so eager to do it.

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