What is up everyone? This is Alex Lieberman, co-founder and CEO of Morning Brew coming to you with another episode of The Founders Journal, My Daily Audio Diary, made public for the world where I talk about the most important lessons, thoughts,

wins and losses behind the scenes at Morning Brew.

As always, I am joined by my co-pilot Josh Kaplan,

and today we are talking about the importance of working

your way outside of your bubble. Let's do it.

All right, we'll back into this one.

You talk anybody cool this week? I talked to somebody cool 30 minutes ago and he may or may not be watching this as well. I'm not sure. I had a conversation at 2 o'clock with this guy who I met through the internet.

We were in David Perel's Right of Passage course

together, which was a course on being a writer on the internet.

He also is a big Morning Brew fan and I reached

out to him because we're building this paid product behind the scenes at Morning Brew and I've just

seen this guy in a lot of different internet communities and creating a lot of different

content and so I reached out to him to have a conversation.

And so in talking with him what I realized was just the value of talking to people that you don't talk to every day that are not in the digital media landscape around your age have been in media for a while.

And it was just such a refreshing thing to get his perspective on building community,

building a paid subscription, and it just made me realize like this is just the smallest example of working my way out of a bubble

by just talking to someone who is in a different generation he's in his he

literally started college two weeks ago but is I would say on the same playing field in terms of

intellectual curiosity passion about media content creation and community it just

maybe realize there's all this like locked up information I don't know about that can be unlocked just

by talking to someone in a different generation who has as much curiosity.

Why do you think it's so hard to do that? Like why do you think that's not a common

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