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It's like when you're solo.

It's, it feels good when you try something. It's like when you're soloing. It's kind of like, let me go try something else. I know what I can do over this tune, but maybe let me try something else. And if it feels good to you and you try to be objective, but you don't really know until you get some kind of audience response. And then even then, it of like is this a dull audience or maybe they don't they don't get it or whatever but i think with this

we've been getting some good response and we appreciate everybody's comments please comment below

if you dig long form well we we already know that a lot of people do because we tried an experiment

and it kind of hits the two main points uh uh i think points, when we did our long-form experiment a couple weeks ago. And by this, we just mean we don't want to make this fancier than it is. No. It's just, there's episodes are three times as long. Yeah, no, we're just taking our time with it. We usually had kept episodes to between 15 and 25 minutes. Right. And as somebody astutely said in the comments, it was basically you rushing me along, is I was just about to say something eloquent and important. And then you'll hear it. Exactly. And that's on me. And that's on me. I did the same thing to you. Yeah. When you're doing in that sort of rhythm, you're trying to keep the topics moving along. And then we had decided a couple weeks ago, well, let's just try one just to switch it up, just for our own enjoyment, which is part of this. Let's just see if we can do one for an hour and just like talk for an hour and let it kind of go deeper and kind of let the conversation develop and an unfurl in a more natural way. And not only did we get a ton of great feedback, thanks for all the feedback on the first long episode. But I love that conversation. Like, we've been doing these now. We've done a couple of them. This is a couple of them we've recorded. And, man, it's so much fun to just sort of like let ourselves off the leash a little bit and let us have these sort of long form conversations. Unfurl Adam and Peter. Yeah. And what happens is it gets closer to how we actually talk when we're just hanging, like after a gig or something, which is, I think, the fun of it. Yeah, and I think there's always, like, some important things to experiment and to, like, learn from them.

And I'm always thinking about, like, how can we apply this to playing? Because we're telling stories in the podcast and we want it to be, but we also want to be respectful of people's time. Although we're just continuing on with useless drivel now. So are we respecting the time? We never know. Thank you, everybody, for the great feedback on the long form. we're going to stick to this format for as long as we feel like it. We've been doing this podcast

for six years. We've done it many different ways. And right now I think we're feeling it's sort of like long time. You know, one thing that is super applicable to playing and practicing, and I think some of the things we're going to talk about today with this decision. And I doubted you at first and I got to give you your flowers on this, which is a new term I've been picking up from the NBA playoffs, giving one's flowers. That means paying the respect, you know. But like you said, let's do an hour, minimum hour episode. And I was like, oh, yeah, we can go longer. You were like, no, no, no, let's shoot for at least an hour.

You were very specific about that.

And I thought that was weird.

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