Almost immediately we're going to memorial services for Army guys, Marines that are killed,

which, you know, was a rude awakening.

So that's that's the welcome to Ramadi.

The welcome to Ramadi is you know you're gonna go and pay your

respects to some guys that were just killed and and there's firefights in the city so we're just across the river from the city.

There's firefights in the city all day. There's firefights in the city all night.

We're on the rooftop of our building you sit there

and watch Tracer fire go back and forth. We're shot at from, you know, across the

river bank. There's, yeah, it was it was legit. It was legit combat. It was a legit bad scenario with

sustained combat operations. How do you lead your men through that when you know

they're dealing with not only the funerals?

Which definitely take a psychological toll, but then even that just constant firefighting over there?

I mean, do you have to switch up your gear and think, okay, I got to lead stronger or maybe a little easier in certain

scenarios are changing yes you do have to modulate your your leadership and you have to

do that if you're in the business world you have to do that if you're in the business world. You have to do that if you're leading any kind of team.

You've got to modulate and you've got to recognize when your guys need to be pushed and

when your guys need to be not pushed and given arrest so you're constantly doing that regardless of what kind of team you're

leading and in combat like you know I say all the time it's amplified because if you push your guys

too hard in combat they they're going to break.

You know, whereas in business, oh, maybe they make errors on something, or maybe they do snap.

I mean, it does happen in the business world, where people like can't take it anymore.

But in combat, it will happen very quickly and so you know you do

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