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We're your host, Shane and Jocelyn Sam.

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All right, let's get started. What is going on, everybody? Welcome back to the Flip Lifestyle podcast. It is great to be back with you again this week. Man, I love my job. You know why? Because I get to hang out with cool people all the time. I get out on the road and meet amazing people and see amazing people come in and out of the flip lifestyle community. And we get to share our stories of living life on our terms. And I got to meet my amazing guest today out at one of our live events. And their story blew my mind. And I was like, guys, I just want you on the podcast so I can hang out and we can talk more because I didn't have time to get the whole deal. So I want to welcome Dave and Beth Mortel on the show today, baby. What's going on? Yeah. What's up? Sheenian? Good to see you, buddy. Yeah. Dude, good to see you guys too, man. Anytime I go near a sailboat now, I can't help but think where are the mortals at. that's what i want to know what is going on let's talk about talk about your background first before we get into like, well, let's talk about how we met. Okay, so we came out to one of our live events and, uh, in Denver. Yep. And one of my, one of my guys comes over to me and he goes, dude, you got to go meet these people. You got it. He goes, I don't know what's going on. it goes like they have a cell boat they They live in there. I don't know what's going on. So like, take me, tell me about you guys. And like, take me, take me back a little bit about how before you got into this lifestyle you're living now. And what did you guys do before? Like, before you kind of started living life on your own terms. Oh, man.

How long is your podcast?

Oh, dude.

It's my podcast. We can go as long as we want, bro. I don't got to be anywhere for a cup. My kids don't get out of school for two hours. So we're good. All right. All right. Well, let's see. We've been married 30 years. So it's a long story, actually. but we'll try to shorten it up a bit. But yeah, so we, I got into

working for a company out of Santa Monica, it does software sales and was pretty involved with

that. Our company got acquired a couple times, and so certainly benefited from that. And,

you know, long story short, as I was able to retire earlier this year,

and I always say that, you know, we retired wealthy, not rich, right? We don't have a ton of money,

but we are blessed with the lifestyle with our daughter who's 14. She reminds that she'll be 15,

like in two weeks. Yes. You hanging on too dead you got to hang

on a one more just two more weeks she's such a couple of down and she's such an awesome kid though but you know

and so um you know we we've been blessed with this time together and you know and i say we have this

long story because you know on our website you you can see us talking about, you know,

I grew up with sexual abuse by our Catholic priest. I grew up with an alcoholic father. That was

pretty violent. You know, and then after we got married, I went through periods of, I think I burned

like six of my nine lives, you know, but no doubt.

You know, then we went through cancer, like a brain aneurysm, some heart stuff and, you know,

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