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Gertrude Stein | Oozing Cubism | 2

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3.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

In this second installment, Peter and Afua examine Stein's boldest move: ghostwriting her partner’s "autobiography" to claim the global stardom she felt she deserved. They confront the darkest corners of her history, including her bitter public feuds and her controversial survival as a Jewish woman during the Nazi occupation of France.


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to a new episode of Legacy.

0:11.4

I'm Peter Frankapan.

0:13.0

I'm Afwahash.

0:14.1

And this is Legacy, the show that explores the lives, events and ideas that have shaped

0:18.9

our world and asks if they have the

0:21.2

reputations they truly deserve.

0:30.6

This is Gertrude Stein, episode two, oozing cubism.

0:40.7

This is our second episode, Peter, talking about Gertrude Stein, and she has been writing

0:47.6

this experimental cubist literature.

0:49.7

It has a huge fan base, especially in academic circles today.

0:56.3

I'm just going to be totally honest. I find it difficult to impossible to read. I don't know how you feel about her writing.

1:02.2

I'm still thinking about our last episode we recorded and about how difficult it is to be a genius.

1:07.4

I've been reflecting on that. I've been trying to, I've been trying to work, do less because because, you know, go-through-science advice that it's, you know, very, very tiring,

1:14.5

and, you know, you can't really do too much. And I've also been thinking about the words oozing onto the page. And so oozing a cubism. My cubism always has these kind of lines, and then the ooze.

1:24.4

I love the assonance.

1:25.8

Ousing cubism.

1:27.9

So I don't think it's easy,

1:29.6

but I don't think that's necessarily a problem. and then the ooze. I love the assonance. Ousing cubism.

1:32.9

So I don't think it's easy, but I don't think that's necessarily a problem because things that are difficult I quite enjoy.

1:34.3

But I think the question with Stein is how self-indulgent is it.

1:38.5

And I'm slightly blinded by the fact that Stein has such a high opinion of herself that

1:43.3

I find it's slightly tricky to get past that, but maybe that's just being unfair.

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