Germany, tanks and Ukraine: Why Scholz had to change his mind

The Bunker

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News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

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🗓️ 2 February 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Germany’s delay sending Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine frustrated European allies – will it do lasting damage to relations on the continent? Was this a missed opportunity for Scholz to have led the way internationally in the fight against Russia? Alex Andreou speaks to Jeremy Cliffe, New Statesman’s writer-at-large based in Berlin, to discuss Germany’s position and what it tells us about the nation. “Germany’s perspective on the world has required adjusting… it has edged towards making more responsibility.” “It took too long for Scholz to grapple with the problems, reflection is one thing, putting one’s head in the sand is another.” “Germany’s political culture moves quite gradually and slowly.” “Being highly methodological and efficient can also lead to great inefficiency.” www.patreon.com/bunkercast Presented by Alex Andreou. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production: Robin Leeburn. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Instagram | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:08.0	For years Germany has been portrayed especially by sections of the British press as an economic
1:13.7	hawk with a Machiavellian cunning to shape the European Union to its service.
1:18.5	The cheerleader of an evil globalist new order that we want nothing to do with.
1:24.8	The vogue has now shifted to a narrative of Germany as an essential but muling and dithering
1:30.4	partner who delays the West's inevitable march to victory over Putin.
1:36.4	After months of negotiations Germany has approved the re-exporting of its leopard two tanks to Ukraine and has committed to send a number of its own.
1:46.0	The West's media seems to have responded with finally instead of hooray.
1:52.2	My guest today is the New Statesman's writer at large, based in Berlin.
1:56.7	Formerly he was the New Statesman's international editor and before that the economist's
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