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The New Yorker Radio Hour

Georgia’s Brad Raffensperger, Who Refused to “Find” Votes for Donald Trump, Prepares for Another Election

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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4.25.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2024

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Amid threats, Georgia’s secretary of state describes how he convinces Republican voters that elections are fair.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of W NYC Studios and the New Yorker.

0:11.2

This is the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Rannick.

0:14.0

If you can name the Secretary of State for whatever state you live in,

0:19.0

go ahead and give yourself a gold star in civics.

0:22.0

But to be honest, I can't name be honest I can't name mine I can't name

0:24.4

any of the other 49 secretaries of state either well there's one big exception

0:29.5

Brad Raffinsberger the Secretary of State for Georgia.

0:33.5

He became a national figure during a phone call that you probably heard about.

0:38.8

So look, all I want to do is this.

0:41.8

I just want to find 11,780 votes which is one more that we have because we won the state. That was Donald Trump after the

0:56.0

2020 election and he was in a lousy mood. You guys are so wrong and you've treated

1:02.0

this you've created the population of

1:04.2

Georgia so badly you between you and your governor but but why wouldn't you want to

1:10.4

find the right answer Brad instead of keep saying that the numbers are right?

1:15.7

Because those numbers are so wrong.

1:19.0

After resisting Trump's demands, Raffensberger became the target of death threats from people in his own Republican Party.

1:27.2

The phone call is a lynchpin in the racketeering case against Trump, led by the Fulton County

1:31.8

DA,

1:32.6

Fawnee Willis.

1:34.3

So what are we going to do here, but I only need 11,000 votes.

1:37.4

Fellas, I need 11,000 votes.

1:39.7

Give me a break.

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