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George Washington never wanted to be president

Think from KERA

KERA

Society & Culture, 071003, Think, Krysboyd, Kera

4.7911 Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

The most reluctant politician we’ve ever had just happens to have been our first president. H.W. Brands is Jack S. Blanton Sr. Chair in History at the University of Texas at Austin, and he joins host Krys Boyd to discuss George Washington who saw himself as a solider and not a politician why he felt it was paramount for a president to defer to Congress, and the grievances he had against the crown before the Revolution. His book is “American Patriarch: The Life of George Washington.”

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U.S. presidents have followed the example of George Washington for more than 200 years.

0:39.5

The cabinet of advisors to help run the country, the tradition of the state of the union address,

0:44.1

and the two-term limit which all that FDR adhered to even before the 22nd Amendment.

0:49.9

But there is one important component to Washington's presidency that his successors did not share.

0:55.8

Washington really didn't want the job.

0:59.0

From KERA in Dallas, this is Think.

1:01.6

I'm Chris Boyd.

1:03.0

His fellow founders understood that Washington would bring a sort of gravitas to the new government they were building at the Constitutional Convention.

1:09.9

As my guests will tell us,

1:11.1

our first president had to be talked into even attending that gathering in 1787, not least because

1:16.7

he defined himself not as a politician, but as a soldier. But when duty calls, a good soldier responds.

1:23.2

H.W. Brands is Jack S. Blanton's senior chair in history at the University of Texas at Austin.

1:29.0

His newest book is American Patriarch, The Life of George Washington. H.W., welcome back to think.

1:35.6

Nice to be with you, Chris.

1:37.1

The word patriarch is a little bit freighted these days. You mean it in the finest, most honorable sense here, I gather.

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