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Ralph Nader Radio Hour

George W. Bush & His Torturers

Ralph Nader Radio Hour

Ralph Nader

Government, News

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Ralph welcomes old friend, Judge Andrew Napolitano, to talk about why the U.S. government offered a plea deal to the supposed mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and four others. He asks, “Why would the government agree to such a plea for the persons it claims are the monsters who murdered 3,000 Americans on 9/11?... What does the government fear?” Plus, Ralph gives us his take on the train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio. And then on a lighter note, we talk about the Super Bowl.

Judge Andrew Napolitano is a former Superior Court Judge, a syndicated columnist, and host of the Judging Freedom podcast. Judge Napolitano has taught constitutional law and jurisprudence at Delaware Law School and Seton Hall Law School, and he was Fox News’ Senior Judicial Analyst from 1997 to 2021. He is the author of several books on the U.S. Constitution, the most recent entitled Freedom’s Anchor: An Introduction to Natural Law Jurisprudence in American Constitutional History.

“I would try (Bush & Cheney) for war crimes for which there is no statute of limitations… the war crimes are well-known. The war crimes are leading us into war under false pretenses; intentionally targeting civilians in the Middle East; authorizing torture and purporting to protect it against state law if done in the U.S. and international law. These are all well-known war crimes for which the penalty is life in prison. They can also be execution… There is still an E.U.-wide arrest warrant live out there issued by Spanish authorities for the arrest of George W. Bush, because of the war crimes I have just summarized.”

Judge Andrew Napolitano

“George W. Bush, arguably the worst president in the post-World War II era for bringing us into two totally useless and very costly wars – Afghanistan and Iraq – which cost us in excess of two trillion dollars, which had over 850 thousand people killed – only five thousand were Americans – which destroyed the moral order in that part of the world for a full generation also instituted a regime of torture. I believe, Ralph, as do many of us who follow this – we haven’t seen it in writing – that Bush somehow pardoned or granted immunity to the torturers, because the torture was so vast and so extensive, and no one has been prosecuted for it. Obama and Holder who said loudly that they were against torture had every opportunity to do it. And they knew the names of the torturers, but it just didn’t happen.”

Judge Andrew Napolitano

“I do believe that Rupert Murdoch called up Donald Trump and said to him, to Murdoch’s credit - to his face, although it was on the phone – ‘you are just not institutionally, constitutionally, or temperamentally, or intellectually qualified to be the president of the United States and we will not support you.’”

Judge Andrew Napolitano

This is super Sparta on steroids—the aggressiveness, the lack of diplomacy, the lack of waging peace by the US government. It’s like they’ve mothballed the charter of the State Department, which was diplomacy. They’ve turned it into a bellicose agency, sometimes much worse than the spokespeople for the Defense Department.

Ralph Nader



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0:00.0

It's the Ralph Nader radio hour.

0:05.3

Stand up. Stand up. You've been sitting way too long.

0:14.0

Welcome to the Ralph Nader radio hour.

0:15.7

My name is Steve Sgrovan, along with my trusty co-host,

0:19.4

David Feldman. Hello, trusty co-host, David Feldman.

0:22.6

Antitrusty. That's another show we'll do later.

0:27.2

And we also have the man in the hour Ralph Nader. Low Ralph.

0:31.0

Hello. We've got a principled conservative ready to speak out.

0:35.6

True enough, Ralph. You know, after the tragedy on 9-11,

0:39.8

America had a choice. We could have investigated the crimes,

0:43.2

identified the perpetrators, and said about to apprehend them in a police action.

0:47.7

Instead, George W. Bush expressed that he wanted to quote,

0:50.8

kick some ass, unquote, which led to a military invasion of Afghanistan,

0:56.0

where Osama Bin Laden was based. In the process, we rounded up hundreds of supposed terrorists

1:01.4

and sent them to the Gitmo military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

1:06.2

We declared these people enemy combatants and denied them the legal recourse and do process.

1:11.8

One would expect from civilian justice. So that decision to carry out a military action

1:16.7

instead of a police action has served only to undermine the moral authority of the United States,

1:21.8

the claim that it follows the rule of law. And while Osama Bin Laden appeared to be the

1:25.6

financier of the operation, the US government later decided that the true mastermind of 9-11

1:31.4

was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Mohammed and four of his associates have been detained and tortured at

1:36.3

Gitmo since 2006. And after 15 years of legal limbo, last year, the US government initiated

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