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Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy

George Takei on being sent to an internment camp, Star Trek and hiding his sexuality.

Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy

Channel 4 News

Society & Culture, News, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2022

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

George Takei is an actor, activist and author, best known for his role of Lieutenant Sulu in Star Trek.

Imprisoned as a child in the United States for being of Japanese origin, he campaigns for gay and immigrant rights. He brings his award-winning broadway musical ‘Allegiance’ to London, which is inspired by his own memories of growing up in a Japanese internment camp.

George joins Krishnan to tell his extraordinary story, from childhood to stardom and his mission to raise awareness about his life.

Produced by: Imahn Robertson

Transcript

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0:00.0

Helo and welcome to ways to change the world.

0:04.8

I'm Christian Garry Murphy and this is the podcast

0:07.0

in which we talk to extraordinary people about the big ideas

0:10.0

and their lives and the events that have helped shape them.

0:13.0

We are on location in a theatre club in Soho in central London

0:18.0

because we have a very special guest who is a very famous actor.

0:21.0

He is best known for one role that we've been watching for 50 years or more.

0:29.0

But he's here in London for a musical based on his own experiences

0:35.0

as a Japanese American who was sent to intern weekends.

0:40.0

We know him as Sulu from Star Trek, perhaps, but George Takay.

0:45.0

Thank you very much for joining us.

0:47.0

Good to be here with you.

0:52.0

So I want to dive in right at the beginning.

0:54.0

Allegiance is the name of the musical.

0:57.0

And that is the idea that was challenged and exposed in your own internments.

1:02.0

It was questioned and simply because of our face.

1:08.0

Pearl Harbor was bombed by Japan, by people who looked just like us.

1:14.0

We're Americans of Japanese ancestry.

1:18.0

Just like German Americans or Italian Americans

1:23.0

with those countries we were at war as well.

1:27.0

But they happened to look like the rest of America.

1:30.0

We looked like the people that bombed Pearl Harbor.

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