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George Saunders: “A Swim in a Pond in the Rain: In Which Four Russians Give a Master Class on Writing, Reading, and Life” (Part 1)

Bookworm

KCRW

Arts

4.5606 Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2021

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

The first in a two-parter with George Saunders discussing his new book, "A Swim in a Pond in the Rain: In Which Four Russians Give a Master Class on Writing, Reading, and Life."

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0:00.0

Funds for Bookworm are provided in part by Lannin Foundation.

0:04.0

Boots!

0:06.0

Where would we be without books?

0:12.0

Where would we be without good?

0:15.0

No, Tender.

0:16.0

It's a rhetorical question, sir, but where would we mean without books?

0:24.4

From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Michael Silverblatt. Welcome to Bookworm. A book I just loved reading,

0:35.1

and a writer that I love to talk to are on. It's George Saunders with his book,

0:42.4

A Swim in a Pond in the Rain, Well, the subtitle will tell you at all, in which four Russians

0:49.8

give a master class on writing, reading, and life. Now, these four Russians, why don't you name

1:01.0

them, George? Oh, sure. It's Chekhov, Turgenev, Gogol, and Tolstoy. So we notice right away,

1:09.3

how come No Dostoevsky? Why these four?

1:14.3

Well, the book is based on a class I've been teaching for 20 years at Syracuse.

1:18.2

So Dostoevsky is in that class, as is Isaac Babel and a bunch of other people.

1:23.1

But the goal was to try to set the book up so that I could provide the full text of the

1:27.7

stories that we're going to talk about, try to simulate the classroom.

1:31.1

So the reader reads the story and then we talk about it.

1:34.5

So it became kind of this crazy Rubik's cube of, okay, how long are the stories, how long

1:38.6

are my essays, how many can I fit?

1:41.1

And most importantly, over the years, those 20 years of teaching these stories which are the seven

1:45.3

that kind of teach the best the stories are aren't necessarily my favorites even they're just the

1:50.1

ones that over the years have always you know given the classroom that little pop where they're

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